adult’s movies: sex, explosions, yelling, cheap love story
kid’s movies: deep heart-wrenching death, moments where you question your own values, humor, adult jokes splashed in, the secret to the entire universe, sometimes explosions too
"I dunno man, kid’s movies are just kinda dumb"
Everyone always talks about dwa's amazingly unique female designs for Ruffnut, Astrid, and Valka, but what about Gothi? Why do we always gotta leave out our favoritest lady ever??
YEAH, WHAT ABOUT ME????
LOOK AT ME, I’M HOT STUFF
I’M THE COOL VIKING GRANDMA
cool viking grandma
i like to think she always makes ugly sweaters and bakes cookies for the villageDoes she walk all the way down to deliver those cookies or does she just throw them over that ledge to unsuspecting vikings below
This keeps getting better
not to mention she’s the residential crazy cat lady of Berk
*silently puts fandom references in all my schoolwork*
Hey, there! I was thinking about httyd the other day, specifically the Kill Ring scene. When Hiccup tries to show them that the dragons are not that bad, Stoick says to stop the fight. Maybe he says so, because he remebered Valka, and how she got "killed" because she wouldn't kill a dragon, just like Hiccup. I would like to know your thoughts about it and sorry for my english.
Hi! Don’t worry, your english is pretty good. ;)
I do like to think so, yes. The initial idea of the director might not have been that specific one, but since now we’ve gotten more info from the second movie, I daresay Stoick probably saw A LOT of Valka in Hiccup.
All. The. Time.
The kill ring scene was the hardest for him to handle. Hiccup was putting himself in danger, just like Valka had. I think Stoick always wanted her to stay at home, even before Hiccup was born, precisely because of this. She wouldn’t listen, of course, and she would go out and attempt to stop people from attacking dragons with killer blows.
Probably, in that moment, Stoick feared for his son’s life — because he knew that look in his eyes. He’d had to pull Valka out of harm’s ways so many times.
I do like to think that all the dragons did somewhat pause when they saw her, just like they did (almost always) when Hiccup tried approaching them peacefully. Out of curiosity, I think; this person didn’t quite look like the others. There was something different about her.
She wasn’t scary.
We’re talking about a woman who ran into her home, grabbed an axe, lifted it — at a huge dragon that was approaching her small child — and she stopped to look. She must have had a feeling, but how can you trust your own gut in situations like this, when decisions have to be made in a split second? Were it a different dragon, would it have felt more threatening to her? Would she have tried to attack? WHY did she stop? Cloudjumper could have devoured the baby in the blink of an eye… I think she sensed it meant no harm, even before she SAW the dragon wasn’t attacking the baby. It was curious. And so was she: mesmerized, even. Terrified,with the knowledge that she had confirmed her instinct on dragons.
There had probably been other moments like this, in which Valka threw herself in harm’s way and Stoick had to pull her out. They probably went back home, argued, so many times, and he always begged her to reconsider… and she always begged him to look for another way.
He never did. None of them gave in. But they couldn’t not love each other.
So I got this exact same ask. Thank god I decided to brave the tags a bit.
Stoick literally says something along the lines of “Just like his mother” about Hiccup (and then Gobber points out, Hiccup’s rather like Stoick as well), so I think that Stoick certainly saw a lot of parallels between Hiccup’s actions in movie 1 and his wife. (“I should have seen the signs” *cough*)
The “Stoick wanted her to stay at home line” I should think would infer to her behavior towards dragons. If you aren’t going to help the vikings, and you aren’t going to protect yourself well, then please, by all means, stay out of the way.
But yeah, thanks for answering so well so I didn’t have to ;)
Multi-nonnie strikes again! (the only tag I’ve been through since last month has been the Rise of Berk tag and idk why). Anyway, to avoid problems, Stoick probably put Valka in “house arrest” when dragon raids happened. Those were their main tiffs. He wanted her at home. She wanted to be out. And I guess that, for a while, she did stay at home - later stages of pregnancy, or when Hiccup was very very small - and it KILLED her. I imagine Valka looking back, while in the Sanctuary, and remembering her early months of pregnancy when she would still attempt to preach during raids, and how enraged this made Stoick. Heck, she’d probably messed up on other occasions before… much like Hiccup had… and she tried, she DID try to make her husband happy and stay at home and just KEEP OUT OF THE WAY but she couldn’t. Her conscience wouldn’t let her. Can you imagine her thinking that she WOULD probanly still try to stand up for a dragon (and she probably did?) while having the little one strapped to her back? No wonder she felt it better to stay away. She must have felt more at home in the Sanctuary than at her own village, though she probably never quite found peace. Except when she was flying.
This was a conflicted woman, on many levels. It’s amazing that Stoick and Valka loved each other so much, despite this.
But yeah, thee WERE previous hints about Stoick comparing Hiccup to Valka. Funny thing is, Hiccup and Stoick are so alike, too. Perfect balance, even if he’s unlike either in stature. XD
hohoho! wonderful analysis! you know i can’t express this enough becuase i got the same excat question, but i left it in the drafts becuase i was busy at the time and you guys wrote this wonderfully! *thumbs up*